ESS 801: Introduction to GBA & ESS advisers

Laura Vogt:
Hello. Thank you for joining me for the first episode of season eight of The (Not So) Secret Guide to Being A Berkeley Engineer. I’m your host, Laura Vogt, the Associate Director of Marketing and Communications in the College of Engineering. This year, we will be exploring and introducing our incoming first year and transfer students to resources, faculty, students and staff in the College of Engineering and across UC Berkeley.
This week, I’m excited to introduce Shareena Samson, the Director of Advising and Policy and Engineering Student Services, which we’ll be calling ESS for the rest of this podcast and Catherine Bouvier Dang, an engineering student services advisor, and they’re here to tell us more about Golden Bear Advising, which all incoming for year and transfer students will be completing this month.
We want you to know what to expect, what’s different about the engineering portion and answer some frequently asked questions. Then, we’re also going to talk a little bit more about advising and ESS and introduce you to advising as a whole. First introduction, Shareena, can you tell us about yourself and your role in ESS?

Shareena Samson:
Hi, [inaudible 00:01:00]. Yes, good morning. I am Shareena Samson. I am the Director of Advising and Policy in ESS, as Laura mentioned, I have been the director since January of this year, but I’ve been working with ESS since 2018. I’ve worked with all kinds of students. I’ve worked with EECS, ME, BioE, MSE, pretty much across the board for most of our larger departments. I was an undergraduate here. I graduated in 2001 in Anthropology and South Asian Studies and I’m a proud Golden Bear.

Laura Vogt:
Thank you so much for being here today. Catherine, your turn.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Sure. Hi everyone. My name’s Catherine and I’m one of the college advisors. Basically, I like to think of myself as the Google or your Google for the University, so if you have a question and you don’t know the answer, then you can always come and talk to me. I’ve been an ESS advisor for the past six years.
I also graduated from Berkeley, not in the College of Engineering, but I definitely know how to navigate the College of Engineering for you, so don’t hesitate to talk to me. I love to go visit National Parks and find cheap eats around campus. If you have any questions about finding cheap eats around campus, feel free to come and talk to me as well.

Laura Vogt:
Thank you, again, so much for being here today. I’m excited to get going on the podcast. I can’t believe that it’s the eighth year we’ve done this. It’s always important to me to do a new podcast about Golden Bear Advising because there’s always little tweaks and changes and the dates are different. Let’s go over what is Golden Bear Advising and why is it so important?

Shareena Samson:
Golden Bear Advising is made to be convenient and it has all of the information that you’re going to need to start off with as a student and enrolling courses in the summertime. It’s something that you can do at home, on your own time for the most part, and it covers a large swath of information like the student portal, which we call CalCentral, how to schedule your courses and what courses that you’re going to take.
It covers all of our college and campus policies, at least the things that you’re going to need to know right off the bat as you’re coming as a student and it also includes information about what we would call co-curricular or extracurricular activities that you can participate in as a student, like student groups, competition teams, any activity that’s on campus, you kind of get a little brief introduction to possibilities of what you could do as you’re a student here at Berkeley.

Laura Vogt:
When is GBA available for students to start doing and what does it do?

Shareena Samson:
GBA will start, for freshmen, on the 4th of June and for junior transfers, it will start the 18th of June. I’m sorry, what’s the second question?

Laura Vogt:
Oh, when’s it due for each of them?

Shareena Samson:
For fresh, it is due the 25th of June and for transfers, it’s due the 2nd of July.

Laura Vogt:
Is there a benefit for them to finish it really fast and early?

Shareena Samson:
Well, not necessarily. Of course, the earlier they get it done, the faster they’d be able to talk with their ESS advisor, and their ESS advisor would be able to give feedback for it, but we really want them to take their time to go through the information so they can understand what we’re presenting to them. There’s no benefit to doing it in five minutes. We want them to take their time, so maybe an hour or two with all of the modules.

Laura Vogt:
Catherine, you wanted to add something?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, so I just wanted to say, Golden Bear Advising are online modules that you’ll be doing at home and there’s four of them, but the third one is going to be the College of Engineering one, and that, to us, is the most important one, especially if you don’t do it, then you won’t be able to enroll in classes.
In that module, we’re teaching you about all of our policies, everything you would need to know in order for you to graduate in your major. We really want you to do it. You’re going to want to maybe skip over it or think it’s a lot, but if you actually just spend the time, you’ll get a lot out of it. Then, you’ll be more prepared when you sign up for classes later on this summer.

Laura Vogt:
Because one of the things that that module does is actually ask you specifically what classes do you have and it builds out to creating your schedule at the end of it, right?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yes. At the end, we kind of ask you what APs or exam credits, or community college classes you might’ve taken, and then from there, we kind of help you figure out what your first semester classes should be, and then after that, you get to tell us what you think they should be. After that, your schedule is emailed to you and your ESS advisor, and that’s when you can actually start speaking with your ESS or college advisor about what you might want to take in the fall or if you have any other questions about the fall.

Laura Vogt:
When students are submitting that course plan, you’re not looking for the specific schedule of I’m taking Math 1A on Tuesdays at 10:00, right?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
No, we’re just specifically looking, are you thinking about taking Calc 1 or Calc 2? Are you thinking about taking data science class or computer science class or your reading and composition? Then, from there, we expect you to have done module one and module two, which teaches you how to find those specific classes and enroll in them later on in July.

Laura Vogt:
Because the way that the-

Shareena Samson:
As part of-

Laura Vogt:
Sorry.

Shareena Samson:
Oh, sorry, as part of GBA, you’ll get to practice with our scheduling systems. You’ll get to know when those courses are, and we encourage people to practice with the systems that allow them to schedule their courses even at the granular level, but the advising portion does not need to be that specific.

Laura Vogt:
The way that the schedule breaks down for them, the suggestions that you give at the end, takes into concern how many units we want students to take that first semester. You’re not going to get a list of 50 classes to take?

Shareena Samson:
No, we do recommend that students take no more than 15 units in their first semester. Twelve is usually great to get people started and if students have written 18, 20 units, we’re probably going to have a conversation about what that means and what our recommendations are based on what we’re seeing.

Laura Vogt:
I know one of the things that students ask a lot about is when their transcripts will show up in the system, so to help them figure out what they need to take, how long does that take or when will that be?

Shareena Samson:
I mean, quite honestly, the transcripts probably will not show up in the system until late September, maybe October. We’re basically kind of guessing based on the materials or the information that the students are providing in GBA.

Laura Vogt:
In any of the cases, like with an AP test, if you don’t have the results back, you’re making your best guess on what your score’s going to be?

Shareena Samson:
Correct.

Laura Vogt:
If students are going through this process and they have questions or concerns, what’s the best means of getting support?

Shareena Samson:
Well, it would depend on their question. We would like to see them go through Golden Bear Advising in its entirety before they start asking questions, but if they are having issues with any particular question or they’re not sure how to answer it, they can email ess@berkeley.edu.

Laura Vogt:
Once their students are able to contact their advisors, we had said that once they’re done with their GBA portals, they can, what’s the best way to make that appointment? Should they be emailing, calling, stopping by?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, so in the email that they will get with the schedule that they said they would take, there’s actually a link that’ll send them to the ESS appointment website. It’ll also show up in CalCentral on the left side where to make an appointment with their ESS advisor.

Laura Vogt:
Oh, great. The appointments, they can specify whether they need it to be, if it’s in person, online or by phone?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yes. For ESS advisors, we’re both working online and in person this summer and throughout the year. If you need it in person or online, the system, you can just tell the system that.

Laura Vogt:
Let’s talk a little bit more about GBA and that it is different for first year students and transfer students. What’s the big differences that you notice?

Shareena Samson:
Well, so in terms of the questions that freshmen versus transfers are asked, freshmen of course are asked a totally different set of questions about their lower division requirements. They’re asked in a different way. Transfer students, we are assuming that they have a lot of their lower division requirements done so the sequence of questions is different.
Also, the freshmen have a math assessment, which we’ll talk about in just a few minutes, I’m sure, which junior transfers will not need to participate in because they’ve already completed their calculus requirements before coming to Berkeley. Of course, the resources for fresh and transfer can be a little bit different.
For example, there’s a transfer center that’s specifically for our transfer students at the campus level and at the college level that freshmen probably won’t use. These are different things that might show up in people’s GBAs that would look different from a freshmen transfer. Catherine, I don’t know if you wanted to add anything to that?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, so one of the biggest parts for the transfers is that assist.org is really important and whether or not the courses you took at community college are going to transfer. At almost the end of GBA, we will be asking you what courses you took that does transfer on assist, and based on that, you’ll have a very detailed schedule. That’ll be probably the most important part of that module.

Laura Vogt:
You mentioned it that we have the math section and trying to help the first year students figure out what math class they’re taking, so what is different this year, and that’s going to be really helpful for students to be able to figure out what math class to take?

Shareena Samson:
Yeah, big change for this year is that we’ve added the math assessment as part of the freshman GBA. We are hoping that students will be able to take the assessment and it’s required, as part of GBA, if you haven’t passed out of Calculus one with an exam or a community college course. If for anybody who hasn’t fulfilled that requirement as of yet, taking the exam, we hope we’ll let folks know which math they should start with.
We’re seeing coming out of the pandemic that folks need a little bit more help with their math and we’re hoping that this will be able to show them what subjects they need a little bit more help with and what would be the best choice for them their first semester in. We want everybody to have a great experience with their first semester, at least as smooth as possible. We’re hoping that this will help them make a good choice.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
This might also be good for students who are not quite sure what their AP exam is going to be. The math assessment basically tells you what different areas of math you need to know in order to be ready for Calculus one, right? It’s a 70-minute assessment, so you really want to make sure that you have enough time to take it in one sitting and we have instructions on that. When you take it, you don’t want to be guessing and you don’t want to be using a calculator or anything like that. It’s really to assess what you remember, what those topics you might remember so that we can tell you, “Okay, these are the topics that you might need to brush up on before you take your first Calculus course.”
If you received a three or lower on AP, for example, on AP Calculus AB, then we strongly suggest that you take this assessment and then that you review some of those topics over the summer and we’ll give you the topics and things to review over the summer if you need it.

Laura Vogt:
That’s nice. You’ve got a little bit time to learn more or to refresh things before you start classes in August?

Shareena Samson:
Yeah, but we are saying it’s really important to do that. It’s very easy for folks to say, I’m going to do it and then pick the higher level course. That would be risky because our first math calculus course is very, very, very fast-paced, so people start falling behind very, very quickly.
We would recommend strongly that you’re taking the assessment itself very seriously. I know that folks are probably on senioritis mode and ready for summer, but it’s a very big deal to take the right math course, but also, we want students to feel like they’re not completely drowning in the first couple of weeks because the pacing is so different from what they may be expecting.

Laura Vogt:
I think some ways, it’s intellectually you understand that you took Calculus AB for an entire year during your high school career and now our semesters are a little shorter and it’s only a semester, so it’s so much faster that I don’t know how you start understanding that, but that’s why we want you to be so prepared ahead of time.

Shareena Samson:
Right, it’s a hard thing to understand intellectually until you’re in it. We’re trying to get people to think about these things and have a little bit of, maybe a little bit of empathy for their future selves.

Laura Vogt:
We do have tutoring throughout the year as well as part of our Center For Access to Engineering Excellence for Students, that we suggest start going right away. There’s no reason to wait until you feel like you’ve gotten behind.

Shareena Samson:
Absolutely. It’s a great way to keep yourself on track if you’re going to tutoring sessions or if you’re participating in an adjunct course. There are many ways to keep yourself on track. Studying with others is really important when you get to Berkeley, even though a lot of people feel like they’ve done it on their own and they’re used to doing things on their own from their high school experience, having people to keep you accountable, is really an important part of the UC Berkeley.

Laura Vogt:
We’ll talk about that more through the year too or through this up on our podcast.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Just to clarify, an adjunct course is an extra discussion section that you take with your math course that will give you some extra review. If you see in the assessment that you’re missing maybe just a few topics, then taking the adjunct course would be a good addition to taking your math course. Also, if you’re super eager, we actually sent out an email on May 24th about the math assessment, so you can take it now before GBA is live. Just remember, you really need 70 minutes of uninterrupted time to take it.

Laura Vogt:
I know a lot of our students, especially these first-year students since they’re just finishing up high school, are probably still at home with parents or guardians and they might be going through that GBA process with them. If those parents or guardians are the ones that feel like they need more information and they’re sending emails to their contacting advisors, what do we do in communication with parents?

Shareena Samson:
Generally speaking, we’re happy to answer general questions with parents. They can write ess@berkeley.edu as well, and I’m hoping that they’re introducing themselves as parents so we can answer questions from their point of view rather than the students’ point of view, but generally speaking, happy to answer any general questions from them.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
But let’s say that a parent wants more specific questions, we do want to speak to the student first. If they’ve already done GBA and they can meet with their ESS advisor and they can actually sign a privacy form to let the parents be in on the advising session, but we do want to make sure that the student is the one driving that meeting and not necessarily the parent because at the end of the day, the student is the one who’s going to be going to college.

Laura Vogt:
IT’S kind of the first steps of letting the student figure stuff out on their own.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
That’s right. It’s scary, but they can do it.

Laura Vogt:
Is there anything else that we haven’t talked about for GBA that you wanted to add?

Shareena Samson:
I think that it’s a good investment of time. Some folks want to blow through it really quickly and just get through it as a task, but we find that those folks, we basically actually keep track of how long you’ve spent in GBA too. If we’re seeing that you’re blasting through in 20 minutes, 15 minutes, less time even, we’re probably going, you’re going to have questions about all that material.
In the end, it’s better if you spend some time with it and absorb it well, because those questions are going to come up in your first semester in terms of our policies, in terms of like, “Hey, when do courses start,” 10 minutes after the hour, just basic information like that, quirks about Berkeley that you probably should know and take the time to learn.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Shareena, how many minutes or hours do you think they should spend on GBA, specifically, our module number three, the College of Engineer one?

Shareena Samson:
[inaudible 00:20:02] I think an hour outside of the math assessment because that’s 70 minutes, as you said, but our module usually takes a good hour to get through if you’re taking the time to read the material.

Laura Vogt:
As you’re going through this and you’ve taken your math assessment and you realize that you’re not ready for calculus, that you have quite a bit that you need to go through, is there another class that you can take that will help you get prepared for calculus, but also help you not necessarily make you feel like you’re behind in classes?

Shareena Samson:
Absolutely. Catherine has honestly answered the question.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, I would say that there is a class that lots of Berkeley students they called pre-calculus, which is math 32. If you end up taking the assessment and you realize there’s a lot of topics that you can’t easily recall, then your best shot is to take that your first semester because like Laura mentioned, a high school class is a whole year versus a Berkeley course is only 15 weeks. It’s best for you to just take those 15 weeks review pre-calculus so that you are ready in the spring to take Calculus one.
We recognize that not all calculus one courses in high school are created equal, or maybe your high school teacher was missing for half the semester, but we want to make sure that you’re prepared because calculus is one of the biggest foundations for an engineering degree. We don’t want you to skip over that.

Shareena Samson:
We just don’t want you to worry about the feeling like you’re falling behind or you’re not prepared. You can work with your ESS advisor to work pre-calculus into your curriculum and to plan however you would like it, whether it would be to plan a four-year curriculum. You can also get an extra semester at the end if you start with pre-calculus. We’re willing to work with you in terms of how you want to fit that into your curriculum.

Laura Vogt:
Awesome. I know that’s important, especially because we talk a lot about the amount of time that you have when you start as a first year.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, I’d say there’s a lot of College of Engineering students who take Math 32 their first semester. If you plan that out with your ESS advisor, then you should be on track. No problem.

Laura Vogt:
Awesome. Let’s switch gears just a little bit and talk a little bit more about engineering student services. In engineering student services, we kind of have two big programs or spaces that students can get resources when you’re an incoming freshman and transfer student and it’s the advising team and the programs team.
Today, because Shareena and Catherine are both on the advising team, I want to learn a little bit more about that. What are ESS advisors and what is your role in making a student’s time in the college of engineering successful?

Shareena Samson:
ESS advisors are basically what folks might think of as college advisors. We are in charge of getting the student to graduation. We monitor people’s enrollments every semester. We’re available for student appointments all throughout the week, and we see students with many types of questions. It could be a question about a petition or a question about a schedule, but it also, it could be anything in relation to a student’s academics or something that’s personal that’s affecting their academics, we feel all of those questions.
We would say that your first place, your first stop in terms of any inquiries or confusions that you might have, and if we cannot answer the question or if it would be best, if you ask somebody else the question, we’ll definitely refer you to the right people and make sure that that question will get answered. Catherine, I don’t know if you have something to add to that?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, you might go through GBA and realize, “Man, this is a lot of information. I don’t know how I can possibly remember everything.” The good news is, is that your ESS advisor, your college advisor is an expert in all of the information that you’re going to be learning. So, if you have any questions after GBA about anything that you’ve learned in GBA, then you would go to your college advisor. You would not go to Reddit, you would go to your college advisor, right?
You want to partner with this person with me for all four years that you’re here because that person is going to be with you all four years and they’re going to help you navigate through the university. If you’re asking, “Oh, what courses should I take,” or “When is it a good time to do an internship,” or “Am I going to minor in something,” or “How do I plan that out?” “I’m thinking about late dropping a class,” things like that, you would go to your ESS advisor, college advisor for that.

Shareena Samson:
I think one of the most important pieces of what Catherine just said is that don’t go to Reddit. It’s not necessarily that we’re dissuading you from getting information from other sources, but we do want to make sure that you’re getting the right information. On an online forum, you can’t verify whether the student that’s answering your question is from your college. You can’t verify what kind of petitions that they’ve done, what kind of course drops that they’ve made. You can’t verify if they’re a freshman versus a transfer student.
It’s really important that you’re getting accurate information, and they may not know the policies, even though they may be giving you information. It’s always best to go to the source and make sure that you have the policy that might pertain to you and your record specifically because they can’t see your record either.

Laura Vogt:
I know you do a lot of academic advising, but you also do a lot of just advising in general about resources on campus or mental health or any of those types of things, correct?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah. Like I mentioned before, we’re like the Google of the university. If you’re looking for a resource, we probably know about it and we can tell you about it. One thing I forgot to add is if you’re a transfer student, you only get two and a half years here, and you might’ve been navigating community college by yourself, but when you only have two and a half years at Berkeley and there’s so many different resources, you kind of want to guide who might be able to fast track you into the things that you’re trying to find.
That would be your ESS advisor. They could help make that two and a half year plan with you, help you throughout just so that you can make sure that you can take every advantage that the college has for you.

Laura Vogt:
Does that even includes if you wanted to study abroad or if you’re looking for internships, we’ve got connections, we know people, anything along those lines?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Exactly. Yeah, I have students ask me questions about almost everything, financial aid, study abroad, minors that are not in our college, and if I don’t have the answer, then I will connect you with someone who does, right? No question is a stupid question. That’s what I’m here for. I’m here to answer your questions and here to support you throughout. Please don’t hesitate to come to my drop-in hours or make an appointment. Every student has their own ESS advisor for all four years.

Laura Vogt:
We talked earlier about making appointments, but can you go over that one more time?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Sure. On Golden Bear Advising, once you finish everything, you’re going to get an email. In that email, it’ll give you the website to make an appointment. Let’s say that you lose that email, you can go to calcentral.berkeley.edu, and in your My Academics tab on the left side, on the bottom, you’ll see your ESS advisor’s name and you’ll see the website that you can schedule an appointment with them with.

Shareena Samson:
It’s really important to note that you can’t make an appointment through the CalCentral system. That gets a little bit confusing for most of our students because it shows make an appointment with my advisor from CalCentral, you can’t do it from there, but there is a link that your advisor, under your advisor, they have a link of where you can go to make an appointment.

Laura Vogt:
I always want to make sure that you know, if you go to engineering.berkeley.edu, our website for the College of Engineering, the search function’s really helpful. You can also click on the menu item for students and you’re going to find advising programs, all of those things. We try to make it as obvious as big button to make your appointments if you need to.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
And-

Laura Vogt:
It’s engineering.berkeley.edu/ess, will take you directly to the students’ page.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
If your advisor has special drop-in hours or anything like that, it’ll be listed on their appointment website for you to look at.

Laura Vogt:
When students are making the appointments, do you find that, what would you like them to do before they come in? Should they have a list of questions? Do they need to prepare for anything?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, so let’s say they go through Golden Bear Advising and they’re like, “I have no idea what this word is,” or “I don’t know if this situation is specific to me,” I would say write those questions down as you go through Golden Bear Advising, and think of your questions beforehand so that when you’re meeting with your ESS advisor, because sometimes that could be 15-minute appointment, 20-minute appointment, 30-minute appointment, that way you can have all of your questions answered.

But I also have a lot of students who just come in and who are like, “I have no idea what I’m doing,” and that’s totally okay and we can explore that too. It’s best to have some questions, but if you don’t, we’ll figure it out as well.

Shareena Samson:
I do want to caution folks that if they want to make a four-year or two and a half year plan, that those appointments should be longer. Please keep in mind that any plan that you would make during the summer or even the fall or maybe even spring of next year, is going to change 100%. It never stays static.

As much planning as students want to do for a four-year plan or a two and a half year plan, just understand that things change all the time. People get excited about new things all the time. People have new opportunities come their way all the time. Just make sure that people, they’re coming in with the expectation that things are flexible a little bit, and that we’ll work with you to get you to the finish line.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
That Shareena is completely right. Your schedule and your plan changes all the time. I usually tell students to create their plan in a Google sheet. Some majors will already have flow charts for you, so you can kind of put that in a Google sheet and it’ll change every semester. That’s normal because as you continue in college, you’ll find things that you’re newly interested in or that things you realize you liked don’t matter anymore. We expect it for it to change because or else you wouldn’t be growing.

Laura Vogt:
Can we talk about the location and the hours of ESS? When can you expect to make the appointments and things along those lines?

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, so the physical location right now of ESS, because we’re getting a new building next year, is 308 McLaughlin Hall, but your advisor might not be there every day because they are working remotely. We realized that some students want to meet with us remotely versus in person. Typically, appointments are between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. depending on the advisor, but if it’s in person, it’s between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m.
If you’re an international student or someone in a different time zone and you wanted to meet with your ESS advisor, you can probably email them and just let them know and they might be able to find a different time for you. I’ve definitely had students try to meet with me at 3:00 a.m. and then me telling them, “It’s okay. We can figure out a different time so that way, you can have a good night’s sleep.”

Laura Vogt:
At 3:00 A.M. I don’t think would work. Well, is there anything else that we haven’t talked about today that you want to add?

Shareena Samson:
I think I just want to congratulate everybody for getting into Berkeley who is listening to this podcast. We’re so excited about meeting all of you in the fall and in the summer, if we have appointments with you. It’s always exciting to see a person at the top of their journey, and we wouldn’t do this job if we didn’t like working with students. We really, really enjoy the journey, taking the journey with you. I guess that’s what I would like to have.

Catherine Bouvier Dang:
Yeah, I would echo what Shareena said, the beginning of college can be scary and super exciting, and we love working with students, so we would love to be part of that experience with you. Don’t be afraid to contact us or meet with us so we can kind of help you navigate through this. I would say take Golden Bear Advising seriously. I know it’s going to be a couple hours of your time.

Maybe you want to go out in the summer instead of doing it, so maybe plan out. You’ve got a couple of weeks to do it, so maybe throughout the week schedule some time to go through GBA so that you don’t have to do it all in one shot except for the math assessment, like I mentioned before. You got to take that all in one shot, right? But enjoy your summer because in the fall, it’s going to be a lot. It’s going to be really exciting, so enjoy your time. Congratulations, and we look forward to working with you.

Laura Vogt:
Thank you so much, Shareena and Catherine, for being on the podcast today. I am excited, like I said earlier, that we’re starting this new year again and that we get to just talk about all the resources and the people that are here to support the students as they go through this journey. Thank you to everyone that tuned into The Not To Secret Guide to Being A Berkeley engineer. We’ll be back next week with more information and resources for your time here at the College of Engineering. Thank you.